Convention models & accessibility
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Something the Bicon accommodation flap (which I don't propose to comment on here) brought to mind is the constellation of assumptions involved and decisions made.
A couple of examples to establish the field, first - all of these are long weekends (Thursday or Friday to Sunday or Monday). The costs are the lowest prebooking prices I can recall or get hold of.
Bicon: university campus. Single rooms with the opportunity for self-catering, £100 or £175 for ensuite.
LRP main event: Scout campsite. Camping with catering vans, shower blocks, and the opportunity for all the self-catering you can do without burning anything down, £60.
Eastercon: Mid-range hotel. Single, double, and twin rooms, all en-suite, no self-catering. £40 a night (based on sharing a twin/double room) for three nights, plus £50 convention membership, makes £170.
Basically, all of these have things about them that are deal-breakers for some people, and organisers always have to choose between them. Well, in principle - in practice they often default to one or another model that they're used to and comfortable with.
In the campus model, it's the combination of small tatty student rooms, possible lack of en-suite bathrooms, and tiny shared kitchens. On the other hand, you've got small-group community and cheapness. This model works well for a relatively young & healthy community, who generally know each other already; less well for older people and positively hostile to families.
Camping is a deal-breaker for a great many people, though I love it. It's something you need to have a fair amount of practice at, and prepare for in advance, and it works better if you do it as a family or an organised group. It can be positively hostile to the disabled, and sometimes to those with food issues.
Hotels are my favourite overall, and it's possible to drive the cost down further. The conference facilities are not always up to what a university can give you, but that varies a lot between hotels. They're generally better at comfort, commodiousness, and responsiveness to needs than university campuses are, but they can also be quite a bit worse in terms of allergens and pathogens. On the other hand, you're limited food-wise to the hotel restaurants (which are generally sub-standard and over-priced unless it's a very, very good hotel, in which case they're just over-priced) or whatever's within any distance you're comfortable staying away from the con for.
I've doubtless left out some factors, so all comments and contributions welcome.
A couple of examples to establish the field, first - all of these are long weekends (Thursday or Friday to Sunday or Monday). The costs are the lowest prebooking prices I can recall or get hold of.
Bicon: university campus. Single rooms with the opportunity for self-catering, £100 or £175 for ensuite.
LRP main event: Scout campsite. Camping with catering vans, shower blocks, and the opportunity for all the self-catering you can do without burning anything down, £60.
Eastercon: Mid-range hotel. Single, double, and twin rooms, all en-suite, no self-catering. £40 a night (based on sharing a twin/double room) for three nights, plus £50 convention membership, makes £170.
Basically, all of these have things about them that are deal-breakers for some people, and organisers always have to choose between them. Well, in principle - in practice they often default to one or another model that they're used to and comfortable with.
In the campus model, it's the combination of small tatty student rooms, possible lack of en-suite bathrooms, and tiny shared kitchens. On the other hand, you've got small-group community and cheapness. This model works well for a relatively young & healthy community, who generally know each other already; less well for older people and positively hostile to families.
Camping is a deal-breaker for a great many people, though I love it. It's something you need to have a fair amount of practice at, and prepare for in advance, and it works better if you do it as a family or an organised group. It can be positively hostile to the disabled, and sometimes to those with food issues.
Hotels are my favourite overall, and it's possible to drive the cost down further. The conference facilities are not always up to what a university can give you, but that varies a lot between hotels. They're generally better at comfort, commodiousness, and responsiveness to needs than university campuses are, but they can also be quite a bit worse in terms of allergens and pathogens. On the other hand, you're limited food-wise to the hotel restaurants (which are generally sub-standard and over-priced unless it's a very, very good hotel, in which case they're just over-priced) or whatever's within any distance you're comfortable staying away from the con for.
I've doubtless left out some factors, so all comments and contributions welcome.
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Date: 2008-08-13 03:55 pm (UTC)In the past, it's been possible to do such things at Butlins-type holiday camps. e.g. various of the UK Gen Con (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gen_Con) events in the mid 90s were held at Pontin's holiday camp in Camber Sands. Gen Con UK 2004 was at Butlin's in Minehead.
At many such places, you get a mix of static caravans and/or chalets suitable for a reasonable number of people. You might also get hold of ballrooms, discos, restaurants, kids' clubs and the like to run different events and facilities.
However:
And you'll get comments/requests/moans from people because something isn't right or available because no place is going to be perfect.
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Date: 2008-08-13 06:14 pm (UTC)On the other hand, Conception, held annually at Holburne Naish, Highcliffe, Dorset, is more on the scale of BiCon, does accessibility reasonably well (there is at least one wheelchair-enabled chalet, for example; I've stayed in it), and might prove a better model.
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Date: 2008-08-14 12:22 pm (UTC)Use of large tents is usually entirely bad.
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Date: 2008-08-14 07:10 pm (UTC)At present, though, the most important thing about GenCon is that it clashes with BiCon! :-(
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Date: 2008-08-15 08:29 am (UTC)If you can work out which, we can organize a protest march. It may not be effective, but we can rest safe in the knowledge that it's been carefully planned on a hex map.
(If a policeman strikes you with a truncheon, do you get an attack of opportunity?)