ok so i'm not actively discussing, but i'm paying attention to the discussion and i'm not white. .. and the coloured-on-the-outside-white-on-the-inside thing is something i've been subjected to. No, it's not nice, but i do feel there's a big difference between that sort of racism - a nuanced sort, if you like, and the absolute sort - absolute supremacy, the categorical devaluation of other races etc. Most fish in different seas will at some point wonder about how much their identity has shifted or how they are perceived relative to their ancestral and contextual culture, but most don't think they're inferior to some other race, unless something has gone badly wrong. Coconut, banana, oreo... it's about identity and belonging and which 'culture' is considered better. It's actually pretty interesting, although of course when used as a racial slur it's unpleasant and damaging. Oh. i just realised something. I think the distinction (to me) is between a racial thing and a cultural thing with racial aspects. possibly.
ETA: Also, for what it's worth, i don't see a coconut, i see a bowling ball (without knowing the relevant story). It's stretching it to see a coconut, even with familiarity of old cartoons which do show coconut-heads. Anyway, i'm not actually discussing anything here, right, you haven't seen me...
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.. and the coloured-on-the-outside-white-on-the-inside thing is something i've been subjected to. No, it's not nice, but i do feel there's a big difference between that sort of racism - a nuanced sort, if you like, and the absolute sort - absolute supremacy, the categorical devaluation of other races etc.
Most fish in different seas will at some point wonder about how much their identity has shifted or how they are perceived relative to their ancestral and contextual culture, but most don't think they're inferior to some other race, unless something has gone badly wrong. Coconut, banana, oreo... it's about identity and belonging and which 'culture' is considered better. It's actually pretty interesting, although of course when used as a racial slur it's unpleasant and damaging. Oh. i just realised something. I think the distinction (to me) is between a racial thing and a cultural thing with racial aspects. possibly.
ETA: Also, for what it's worth, i don't see a coconut, i see a bowling ball (without knowing the relevant story). It's stretching it to see a coconut, even with familiarity of old cartoons which do show coconut-heads.
Anyway, i'm not actually discussing anything here, right, you haven't seen me...